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2008.09.21

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"Still, it doesn't take away from the fact that this has been the most innovative version of a super-hero comic since--oh, what the fuck. Since Watchmen."

That can't possibly be accurate. I mean...Seven Soldiers, right? Or Animal Man? Just to stick to Grant Morrison comics (which might end up being necessary anyway, all things considered).

It was off the cuff, so I don't know if it's something that I really should defend. That being said, I do think that Watchmen and All Star Superman share a unified visual look across the board, a consistency in narrative tone, and a stand-alone, "don't need anything else to read this" thing. I don't see the same with Soldiers and Animal, although that doesn't mean I like them any less--just that they aren't as clean an example of hero comic as All Star is. Either way "most innovative usage of a super-hero comic" is pretty fucking mediocre praise--i'm not convinced there needs to be a canon made up of "best of what DC, Marvel and sometimes Dark Horse publishes".

I am curious to find out how long this things legs are. It would be interesting for the Superman character to finally have a trade paperback that can sell the way the Dark Knight Returns still does. (Besides the doomsday punch clark he fall down wah wah thing.)

"Still, it doesn't take away from the fact that this has been the most innovative version of a super-hero comic since--oh, what the fuck. Since Watchmen."

OK, it was off the cuff, fair enough, but was innovative really the word you were looking for? At the end of the day, All Star Superman was a superbly executed book, but was there really much that was innovative? Also, lumping it together with Watchmen is...I dunno. Watchmen set out to make a statement on certain elements of superhero books, and in the process Moore reinvented comic book structuring. All Star Superman was "just" standard superhero stories told extremely well. The Superman book didn't break any ground, or even try to, so I don't think it's fair to either book to judge them by each other.

As far as the Superman book having legs, I think this will be another book everyone will forget about in a year or two. DC decided to trade it as two separate volumes, and I think that alone will diminish its staying power, since the story doesn't really show everything it is unless its read as one work. (I don't think Lord of the Rings is a good analogue, because quite frankly I don't think DC will ever market anything competently, as the LOTR books were.) Also, it's DC, and unless someone literally hands them a complete work that's "shocking," (e.g. Watchmen and Dark Knight Returns), they don't know what to do. I don't think they can take a true all ages, clean, fun, Superman story and market it. I think this story will be fondly remembered by people like you and Deppey as an example of how good a superhero book can be if done well, and people like - well - the superhero people will point to as one example in a list of books including the other stuff you mentioned that was good for 2008. All that and I haven't even read the rest of the column yet! lol


You need to start writing Robin. Now. Your idea would be hysterical, and then I could amuse myself reading a bunch of angry baby men and women peeing themselves over the whole thing!

You have a more positive view of Ghost Rider comics than I do. As far as I'm concerned, they only redeemed themselves by Method Man using the name Johnny Blaze and the cute Ghost Rider Mighty Mugg. Now, if they were to publish a comic of the Ghost Rider Mighty Mugg hitting people, that would be epic.

I can't take any credit for Robin. The issue itself is written as if that's the way it's going, I'm sure the guy who pulled the trigger and said that line will have somehow missed, even though he looked to be about 3 feet away from Stephanie.

I don't know what a Mighty Mugg is, but it sounds fascinating.

If Spoiler was indeed shot in the face and dead, I would laugh disproportionately to what would be considered sane and well adjusted. One can hope, I guess...but I think DC still pretends their books are written for kids, so maybe hoping is futile.

A Mighty Mugg is like, um, can I link in your comments? I don't know if that's bad form or not, but it's one of these:

http://web.mac.com/billvinson/ImageShare/miscellaneous/mightymuggs_ghost_rider.jpg

Please delete if you think the link is tacky.

I think it's a general rule that linking to pictures of something like that is always acceptable. I disagree that Ghost Rider should look like that. It would be better if that thing just followed the regular Ghost Rider around, like a dog or Bat-Mite.

I kind of hope you're wrong about all this Kenny, but you're definitely wrong when you say:

"DC decided to trade it as two separate volumes, and I think that alone will diminish its staying power, since the story doesn't really show everything it is unless its read as one work."

because there's already a scheduled 12 ish collection, probably hardback, and I'd imagine there will be a cheaper one later.

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