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2010.11.23

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ARE Craig Yoe books horrible? All I know is he did one about Joe Schuster's BDSM comics, which struck me as sort of vulgar, not in terms of subject matter but that it seems pretty disrespectful to someone who obviously obviously OBVIOUSLY didn't want anyone to know he did those things.

"Then maybe he shouldn't have done them in the first place!" is the modern age's credo, Chris.

"Here's My Movie Review, Fuck Your Mother In The Face Dot Com"

Pure poetry, Tucker.

"It's a nifty trick—not the “everybody is so dumb except for us” thing, but the way Ellis has been able to build an entire career out of saying “everybody is an idiot except for us”, and then he's just used that career so that he can repeat some variation of that phrase, forever."

Tucker... you are aware of the Irony here, yeah?

KG

I'm aware of the irony, but being an audience member isn't a career, Kieron. Neither is blogging.

Where does one go to buy Sara Lee coffee cakes anyway?

In defence of IDW, they *do* publish the Library of American Comics, which is bringing us Little Orphan Annie, Dick Tracy and Lil Abner, among others. The Annie reprints are particularly well designed -- the subject index at the back is a *great* idea; I wish every other "classic" reprint would replicate it.

That said, I've never read anything else published by IDW, because it all looks like dogshit.

Totally forgot about the Library, there is some good stuff in there. Rip Kirby!

Chris: asking the wrong guy. Yankees are too good for pecans, I'm thinking.

A fuck to the yes for the Kyle appraisal. My god but the man's as dedicated today as he was back in during Classics Illustrated / Justice, Inc...

Straczynski's SUPERMAN run fails for me not just because it's a dull premise (although it is that) it's because the notion of superhero characters solving "real life problems" is so stupid it's actually offensive. I was, at one point, naive and young enough to think there was something interesting or noble about attempting to talk about actual issues in this context but I've come to realize it just diminishes said real life issues by placing them in such a preposterous context. I recently opened up an issue of this SUPERMAN run just out of curiosity and saw Superman holding a guy upside down and making him apologize and REALLY MEAN IT that he's sorry because he felt up someone at a restaurant and I had this Garth Ennis-style fantasy where a character with an ounce of dignity and sense who wears his underwear on the inside of his pants beat the tar out of Superman and dealt with this creep in a way that makes sense relative to actual society. Superman represents a Beaver Cleaver worldview and is best left to just punching aliens for the entertainment of children. That's it. Having him take on child beaters is like having Aslan the Lion show up in the pages of an Elie Wiesel novel where he defeats history's greatest monsters by farting magic rainbows at their faces. It's completely offensive to the magnitude of the issue at hand to juxtapose it with a cartoon character and Superman as a construct is entirely ill-equipped to deal with real issues... he can either punch a monster to the moon or he's useless. That's all he's built for.

Oh, and the scripting is bad. Oh, and the dialogue is bad, too.

Oh, and if Kieron Gillen truly wanted to call you a hypocrite, he would have quoted this part:

"But usually people grow out of it, they mellow out. Have a kid, figure out where to buy Sara Lee Coffee Cakes, that sort of thing."

Are you admitting you're an adolescent? Grow up and mellow out, Tucker.

I guess it's just me but even though I agree with you most of the time, Mr. Stone, you seem like the Denis Leary of comic reviewing, smugly sneering and shouting "I'M AN ASSHOLE I'M AN ASSHOLE I'M AN ASSHOLE" over and over again

I think Superman and his like can be used metaphorically to deal with certain real world issues. For example, futurism, etc

I don't understand why writers always go for the same tired negative stuff whey want to write about "reality". Maybe I DO want to see Supes dealing with something "real", for lack of a better term, but I really don't want to read about him pontificating against heroin. Square peg, round hole.

The problem with Superman comics isn't him punching wife-beaters so much as that what should be a simple, enjoyable story about Superman punching a wife-beater becomes this drawn-out joyless exercise in Superman being as much of a douche as he can be and judging the hell out of everybody he can judge in a way that never fails to remind you that this dialogue is actually coming from a fat fuck whose major contributions to humanity are a shitty science fiction TV show and an ugly beard.

Meanwhile I think in Action Comics, Lex Luthor tells the cutesy goth Death from Sandman to go blow a horse, so I mean, there's the kind of thing a guy could maybe actually get enthusiastic about.

There were a lot of flaws in Osborn (you pointed out the stupid slurp blowjob joke and the Ellis backup, I would add that the female journalist was extremely annoying and unfortunately appears to be the lead foil for Osborn) but ... DeConnick's scripting of the prisoners and Osborn himself was very good - their dialogue had an imagination and snap that took me by surprise. I'm intrigued by her potential as a new writer.

I dunno, Dan. Lately it seems that JMS both trimmed his beard and took off his sci-fi writer cowboy hat. My main problem with him now is that he looks like your friend's annoying dad who tries to be your best friend.

"I think Superman and his like can be used metaphorically to deal with certain real world issues. For example, futurism, etc"

In what sense is "futurism" a "real world issue"?

In the sense that the future is coming and we have to figure out how we're going to deal with it. How isn't the future a real world thing? It's this kind of attitude that makes the 'issues' dealt with in superhero comics nothing but child molestation and drugs, and maybe impotence, if we're lucky.

There are real world people who are futurists? At some point Superman had vague connections to 1930s futurism (Kryptonians as Super-evolved humans), so you could turn the next HyperCrisis into a metaphorical story of man's troubled relationship with the Modern Project in Postmodern times.

I should add that I think Superheroes are too obsolete and Modernist as concepts to be very useful for exploring actual, current futurist issues.

Yeah, heroism is SO last century.

Ellis has been unreadable in recent years, ESPECIALLY his Astonishing X-men run. Ghost Box was absolutely garbage all over.

Trust me, Tucker. fod_xp is a problem. Delete him now. You don't want him a regular at your blog.

omg...you're associating and mistaken two different words-future and futurism. look into it,jesus..i can hardly see how you can relate the concept of futurism with the world's real issues..god, if you were talking about terorism, discrimination, poverty,etc i would've understood.

I dunno, I wouldn't consider being called "The Dennis Leary of comic reviewing" to be an insult of any sort.

GOD

uh preparing for the upcoming future is a real world problem. just because sci-fi is for nerds doesn't mean humanity should pretend the future is not coming. and i'd rather see superheroes being used to deal with that sort of issue than stories about superman having liberal guilt.

I would, Chris. Leary is smug and unfunny.

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